we can finally settle this debate
aoc IS bad
I was one of the last holdouts here. I was still weakly defending her maybe a couple years ago, but definitely not anymore. I actually can’t recall the last time anyone here had anything positive to say about her.
AOC got bled dry like all US “progressives”
Don’t hate the player, hate the game
Nah, she completely sold out and is looking like the next generations Pelosi after like 4 years.
At least it took bernie a few decades and multiple presidential runs for the dnc to completely neuter him.
Even today Bernie is at least bucking the establishment line… Not enough to make waves, but enough for a few ripples.
There was the “AOC is doing what the unions want” guy
Wasn’t that LiberalSocialist? I have no idea if they actually believed anything or if they just liked starting struggle sessions.
That was their last notable soapbox before they got banned for shit stirring
Ngl I was pretty sick of their shit
Do you disagree?
That AOC was doing what the unions wanted? Yes, she was doing what a slim majority of their administrators wanted.
Power Dynamics
Sorry if I was being ambiguous, I was saying “Yes, [I disagree, because it was merely] what a slim majority of their administrators wanted [rather than the unions as a whole, or even the normal supermajority of administrators]”
Don’t worry i understood, and i agree with you. I was just doing the LiberalSocialist bit, where they would spam shit like “Do you disagree?” and “Power Dynamics”
Yup
Another fucking useless liberal
Now the debate is between AOC is bad vs AOC was always bad
this is the US “left”, calling a peaceful rally for Palestinians anti-semitic
She’s doing what the Palestinian’s want, actually.
POWER DYNAMICS
Do you disagree??
I started lurking hexbear around the time liberalsocialist got banned. What was their deal?
Coin flip on the best wrecker the site has ever seen and a very confused and masochistic liberal with demsoc tendencies
They would lie like crazy and if you pinned them down on something long enough the nastiness would come out, my moneys on wrecker
have you ever pinned a liberal down? they love getting nasty when they don’t have any other arguments.
They definitely lived up to the liberal part of their name
zero citing example of the ‘‘hatred and antisemitism’’ in the article by the way.
Just for the info, Pelosi was a civil right activist before going into politics. Just like how AOC pretended to have helped unionize some workplace.
kicking the ladder for your constituents is not a bug, it’s a feature
zero citing example of the ‘‘hatred and antisemitism’’ in the article by the way.
They don’t because the US media and politicians have long made an effort to make it so that the public equivocates support for the Palestinian people with antisemitism. So simply asking the that Palestinians not be treated like animals is antisemitic. It’s sickening.
When you try to ask the UN to give Palestinian authority some semblance of justice, that’s diplomatic terrorism
When you do BDS, that’s economical terrorism.
Pelosi was also in the “progressive caucus” and called for universal healthcare at some point. AOC is Pelosi, I’ve been saying this for years.
AOC is Pelosi, I’ve been saying this for years.
lol she wish she was
she really does.
Pelosi is a ghoul, but damn if sbe wasn’t great at being a ghoul. Did nothing but enrich herself and actively make the world worse, and had the voteball enjoyers clapping for her while she ddd it
give it time. She already serves the same purpose that Pelosi used to. So many centrists and “progressives” point to her as an example that actually progressive politics are possible within the Democratic Party and use her as a cudgel against left wing criticisms of the party. She already funnels money from progressive donors towards centrist democrats. Sure, she may never be the Speaker of the house but I could definitely see her selling out more to get into some leadership position.
right here. She was the 2nd biggest fundraiser after Pelosi herself. Whether she enters leadership or not, she has the real power which is money.
The fact that she has that money, that we know she hands over to centrists, makes it clear that all her whinging about needing to play ball with leadership because of commitee appointments or whatever is completely empty.
She was on the ghoul track her whole life. Her 6 month tour as a bartender was a stolen valor photo op, no different than ratboys.
ISRAEL DOES ETHNIC CLEANSING YOU FUCKING BUFFOON!
Haven’t you considered that the fragile ego of some Zionists are more important than Palestinian untermensch?
AOC is really speedrunning her turn into a Pelosi figure huh?
She wishes. It’ll be a long time before anyone lets her get near a position of authority.
speedrun it before it turns into a disfunctional state
lord help me i’m gonna fedpost
Lol, throwing around solidarity while demonizing people that just want their rights respected. Fuck off lib.
Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Shut the fuck up. Shut up! SHUT UP!
social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism
They really keep proving it.
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The Canadian New Democratic Party put out a better statement on the issue than any sitting America politician did. And the NDP’s statement still had to do the “we condemn Hamas but” about it. Meanwhile Bernie, Fetterman, and every member of The Squad (including Omar and I’m decently sure Tlaib but I could be corrected on that) put out awful shit. Fetterman’s was especially unhinged to the point where Felix quote tweeted it and said “Next time you’re depressed skip the hospital”
ETA: Looked up Tlaib’s twitter and couldn’t find anything. Guess she decided to stay silent. Thats actually better than any of the others did lol.
I guess she can only speak up about the supposed ethnic cleansing of muslims if uhhhh they’re Chinese and the evidence is some grainy satellite photos of middle schools
https://twitter.com/rashidatlaib/status/1308960805526933506
and not when there’s tons of evidence and the Israeli government is openly using genocidal language and saying they will cut off all food and waterEDIT: apparently she hasglad to see, thank you. I shoulda checked myself but seeing a lot of red lately
Yeah not saying Tlaib is good just that on this one issue silence is better than what any of the others have done lol.
true I’m just angry about it
Come on now, we can do better than a twitter search https://www.businessinsider.com/rep-rashida-tlaib-palestine-israel-statement-instagram-2023-10?amp
Pleasantly surprised, my bad. I would have assumed if she said something it would be on her twitter.
I would have assumed if she said something it would be on her twitter.
She is a “progressive” elected just to tweet, like the rest of the squad, so don’t beat yourself up for making that assumption
Tlaib and bush afaik are the only people approaching the vicinity of based in Congress
Did Bush say something good about this?
Also honestly I visited Omar’s twitter and her followups on this are pretty good it was just that initial tepid both sides bullshit that was severely disappointing. AOC, Bernie, and especially Fetterman were no surprise but Omar I did not expect. My Jewish friend from her district thinks she’s afraid of a primary because the last primary was actually kinda close and the Israel lobby is strongly against her and there’s a fair amount of Zionists in that district. But still like, have a backbone lol. They’re going to hate you regardless.
Having a backbone would get your name out at least, might make people like you
Bush demanded an end to military aid to Israel
she also called it an apartheid in her statement which is important since the democrats decided to ignore that Palestinians are being oppressed.
Nice, good for her.
Fucking moron. Doesn’t she have a celebrity talk show to go on? I’m sure that’s of greater importance.
What do you mean? Her job of sheepdogging young progressives into believing Zionism is the most leftwing stance you can have is a very important part of her function now!
Pelosi-tier progressive reformer to centrist grifter speedrun
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